Blind Mans Bluff (Mafia 17) Game Over Town Wins

Guido Capone wrote:

As you all are settleing down after finding the Godfather on the first run you all notice someone is missing you check the bus bathroom to find Epod ~ Ladies head stuck in the towlet bowl.

A note stapled to the back of her head " Well eat shit and die you cuaght the boss but I don't care, with him out of the way I rise in POWER, Thanx for the promotion."


Epod is dead and she was the DOC day two begins now.

This kinda leads me to believe that theres only one Mafia member left becauuusssse Guido says with the boss out of the way "I rise in POWER, thanx for the promotion." Of course there could be two but if thats the case then why would he automatically assume he got the promo....anyways just reading back through trying to piece something together.

[quote="RaandJ04"]Now as far as Luckie goes I'm not really sure what her game is because I don't have a gun lol My other response to that is and maybe my ignorance of the game is going to show here lol but has anyone been killed with a gun?? We're on a bus!! I think that a gunshot is going to be heard, it would be pretty stupid to bring one on the bus in the first place.


my only response to this is just because you have a gun doesnt mean you have to use it. it was a good try there trying to take the suspicion off. you forget that its my job to know.

the other thing i wanted to bring up is that
ra you seem exceptionally innocent and with all the posts you have put up you are working hard to remain seen that way.... i find it particulary suspicous to seem so radically innocent.

for the moment i stick to my decision

luckie

Radically innocent huh?? Good one. Maybe I am a little unclear on the game but I thought if you were town you were supposed to be helping the town out??? Thats what Im doing or trying to without much success anyways lol I also find it funny that you think it's suspicious that I am acting innocent but Ann isn't suspicious because he/she is saying they're for either party??? Well ok then....

I think Luckie is maybe a vigilante of some sort because she hasn't really helped anyone out town or mafia, I think that this might be an effort to help Mafia out though....in addition I don't really think it matters what I think about all of that because wether your actually a cop/gunsmith or not Mafia is going to kill you now because you said you were....unless your Mafia so I guess we'll find out...I hope for your sake if you are not Mafia that we catch them today...

well with all this new info i will have to UNVOTE KIST and
Vote Raand

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PS wont have time to check back in before deadline so @ Luckie i sure hope ur right about this!

wow
ok so a few things need to be covered

first yes you are supposed to help the town but i personally think that every one else has been suspected except you and wave. but you have out posted wave by alot and i just think that you are acting to innocent and have a gun?! i think that says something.

second i dont think kist is suspicious for the simple reason that he doesnt have a gun so he isnt mafia and the fact that he is for both partys just says what wave was sayin earlier that just because he is town doesnt mean he will side wit the town. but to be perfectly honest i think it is kists role to be on both sides like a vigilante or something. so it is first on my list to rid mafia before somone who is not.

third while i appreciate the effort by sayin i might be the vigilante i have done nothing to implicate that fact. and besides that i have expressed the fact that i am the GUNSMITH. and while i realize that your trying to put out that i am lying .....im not.

i would just like to point out that i have helped town just as much as you and everyone else has so you really cant use that against me

and last but not least if the mafia wants to kill me it will prove what im saying is fact. and if they dont which will just be smart as of this moment not to... so they can continue to say that i am lying. but no one else has claimed that they are the gunsmith and kist is very obviously the vigilante by saying that he is neither town or mafia.

so with nothing to support the accusations in the end all your doin is speculating..... but doin a fine job of it... i still say your very suspicious

luckie

Well, well big surprise that Nicolet and Luckie would vote together lol especially after last game...I think its interesting to note the similarities between how ya'll voted last game and this game. Now as for you being the gunsmith just because someone hasn't come out and said they are and not you does not make you the gunsmith lol it just shows that they're smart enough to keep they're mouth shut and not be killed. I know I would not say i was a cop or gunsmith especially this close to the end. As for posting a lot well Im a housewife lol I have the time trust me. Ann as vigilante? I dont know about that, I'm not really sure whos vigilante or even if there is one lol Im making wild assumptions based on past games which in no way have any relevance to this one lol My plan if you must know is to keep the chatting going on and hope that you or whoever lets something slip. However after these lasts posts of yours i will say that I think you have the wrong end of the stick. You keep talking about how I am acting very innocently but isn't that in effect the same thing you are doing the same thing everyone is doing well lol except for Ann. Im not the one spouting out what my role may or may not be to try to save myself. Your the one who keeps saying over and over again how your the gunsmith a position that I have never even read about lol. I think that your way out of line and Im not going to bother voting for you because Im petty sure that whoever IS mafia is going to take you out. Now I am going to go to the back of the bus and sit in a corner and hope like hell that I don't get killed. Vote pending Wave's decision....

i think what happend last game was as simple as i forgot and voted last minute and so did nicolet nothing more or less.

i announced that i am the gunsmith knowing that i will more than likely be killed but im trying to helo the town by letting them know what i know. most might of kept there mouth shut at this point in the game but im more interested in gettin the real bad guy then i am with living and like i said earlier my death will support what i have been saying.

and yes it is the object to look innocent and yes everyone else is trying to seem so my point was that u act it and have a gun! the point was that you have a REASON to act so innocent.

im not trying to save myself i mean it would be nice but i realize that by saying what i am that there is a very good chance i will die but i really think im right and it will be worth it even if i do get killed

and on that note

i bet you are sure i will die
i bet you are

luckie

Luckie's post sure shakes things up.

I would have to imagine that gunsmith equals cop and that the 'guns' that she finds are equal to being guilty. The fact that noone has been shot is inconsequential. I would also imagine that there can only be one player able to investigate in a game of this size. Noone else has claimed to be able to make investigations. But that doesn't mean for sure there is a player that can investigate either.

Anrkissed now claims that he is not mafia, but not exactly town. If he was the vigilante than why hasn't there been any vig kills? There is always the possibility that the game mod has assigned him another role. There is also the possibility that he and luckie have been given there own assignment. It could be that there is noone that can investigate and they've cooked up this gunsmith thing a) to make luckie look clean and b) to counteract the votes going his way. But that is kind of far fetched in a game this size.

You can't argue the fact that he has been very active in this game. Very unusual. I'm believing that he maybe does have some kind of special role, but who's to know what that could be.

And you're quite right, Anrkissed. I am usually wrong

Oh well, then:

Unvote Ann R. Kist

Vote RaandJ04

Wave what are you doing??!!! I was counting on you not to fall for this!! Hey if its my time to go its my time to go but your making a big mistake with this...no I dont KNOW that Luckie is Mafia but I do know that I do NOT have a gun so obviously she is lying for someone or herself. What's throwing me off is why Ann gave me the vote? The only thing that I can think of is that it's a bid to throw Town off the fact that Luckie's accusing me. IF Ann is in a vigilante role then his/her vote could win for the Mafia, so it goes without saying that if Town wins and we kill the last Mafia member then their vote will go Town way. In light of all this I'm voting for Luckie and so is Ann.


2 Votes for Luckie

Yes, it's quite possible that there is no gunsmith or cop and that luckie is the mafia goon and is just making this up or is in cahoots with Anrkissed (he's a guy, btw). I'm hoping that the game mod only let two mafia aboard the bus and not three. With nine players three mafia is a little much, so I'm thinking that there was probably only two originally. So with that in mind, again, it is possible that luckie is the mafia goon and there was never a gunsmith/cop. But I'm hoping that the game mod would not sucker punch us that way.

It's more likely that luckie is what she claims and noone else has made that claim and she says that you've got a gun, Raand.

I'll stick with my vote for now, but there's over three hours left until deadline. It's quite possible Dustin may show up in the ghost thread before that time and give us his insight. I trust his judgement over mine any day once I know he's innocent.

i really dont have anything else to say... it is what it is im the gunsmith and know that ra has a gun you can believe me or you can believe ra's effort to save herself.


[quote="Ann R. Kist"]Wow. the levels of some peoples stupidity is amazing. So, are you using your vote, and the Vote I gave to you to vote for me Raand or just your vote?you obviously don't understand what a proxy is. You might be able to save yourself by causing a tie, but you never know Wave might not do the sensible thing just to spite me. But I doubt you will make it to the end. You are better off just forfeiting the game in my opinion, that way we don't have to wait for this charade to be over.
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in my defense i wanted to say that i dont know what kist was thinking by giving ra his vote he helped her then implicated her. so it was like "i think your guilty but just in case im wrong you can vote for me."
i agree wit ra in one way.... kist is trying to help mafia
but you have the gun
luckie

Well then I hope Dustin sees the light and can tell that Ann is playing the help the Mafia role because there is only one Mafia member left! I said in an earlier post that I thought there was only one left because she got the promotion...Which means if theres no Mafia theres no game. In addition who says Nicolet isn't a cop/gunsmith, she self professed that she hasnt really had time for the game and she was also the cop last game and didn't help much in the way of clues for Town to go on. So I stick with my votes and hope you change yours..

If Nicolet was the gunsmith and somebody else claimed that role she would immediately state that person a liar IMO.

There is one other possibility. Luckie may be an insane cop which means that whenever she investigates someone the game mod tells her the reverse of what is true. The only way of her knowing if she were insane is if someone died and she found out that the person was not what the game mod told her in her investigation. But I hope that isn't so, because that's also a bit much for this size game.

I still don't know what to make of the Anrkissed thing.

To be honest I don't really know what else to say lol I've gone through every scenario in my head and the only people I can come up with are Kist for acting strangely and Luckie for lying my opinion is reenforced by the fact that the only other person in the game to vote for Luckie which was Tubby immediately died. I guess we'll see what happens.

Tubby216 died by getting lynched not by a night kill. If he were a night kill it could mean something. I'd still like to know the reason behind his strange posts, but I guess that's not till the end of the game.

@Raand--> You keep claiming not to have a gun, but I see one in every post you make, lol

When I gave my vote to Raand, luckie hadn't came out yet, and I wanted to see what was done with my vote, thats why I proxied it, but then Raand kinda ruined things by not understanding what a proxy was and then voting for me. But at least it made Luckie come out which will win the game for the town unless there really is three mafia or Luckie is the insane cop. Case Closed. I win. Thank you all for playing.

Ok after a long descusion of who's who. three of the five remaining contestants have deemed it nessasary to throw Ra from the bus.

Wave grabs her left arm and nicolet grabs her right arm, Luckie walks up to Ra and grabs the collar of her shirt and rips the front to expose a gun Tattooed on her left breast.

Luckie slaps Ra across the face, "You have been hideing among us and trying to get ME killed time to DIE"

Wave and Nicolet throw Ra from the bus.

Ra was the Mafia Goon.

Game Over Town Wins

Lol well it was a valiant effort....I would have been fine if it hadn't been for luckie damnit...good game all.

Way to go townies

Good job, luckie!

You did really good all on your own, Raand.

Thanks for the game, Guido. Will we get any details later?

Roles
Wave = Townie
Tubby = Townie
Dustin = Townie
Luckie = Townie, Gunsmith
Nicolet = Townie
Ra = Mafia Goon
Kist = Survivor
Killa = Godfather
Epod ~ Lady = Townie, Doc

You guys got lucky on getting Killa right off the start, good job there.
The Mafia got ya back though when she took out the Doc.
I read my PM's before everything else day two and decided to put the night kill in with the day kill to keep the story line running smoothly.
Luckie was going to investigate Tubby that night but since he was thrown from the bus, she changed to Ra.
And the rest is history.

Now good job to kist for winning the personal game way to stay alive.

Ra Way to go you played this game as a vet and not like a newbie.

Yes, Raand did very well for a lone wolf newbie mafia.

And now I understand about Anrkissed's dedication this time around.

Good game, everyone!

I'll start a sign up thread tomorrow for the next game.

all hail ra
you were great just so you know....... as a newbie who played mafia my first time you put me to shame lol great job and good game everyone that was a blast. when is the next one?

yay town!!

nice wit the ripping of the shirt that means i have two suivoneers( lousy speller remember)
good thinkin capone

by the way what is a survivor?
luckie

thanks and thats cool ill check it out

luckie

For some reason I couldn't properly edit my last post which was in between luckies two posts. Problem with the link I was trying to insert. Instead of a click on just go to Google and type in Mafia Party Game (first link, it's a wiki page) and you'll be able to check out what I was talking about.

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This is pulled from (see above search). A site where the new players may want to familiarize themselves with some of the optional roles. I imagine Guido might have got the survivor role out of there.

The survivor is a neutral player, and wins when any other team or player wins.

When it says any other team or player wins it refers to very large games with lots of roles. In the case of this game with the basic roles of mafia, townies, cop, and doc the survivor would have to count on the townies to win and for him to remain alive. If he were lynched or night-killed he'd lose and if the mafia were to win than he would have been have been one or the other obviously and would have not survived and lost his game.

We usually start a new game on the weekend and we usually give ourselves a bit of a break so I'm thinking the weekend after this one for the start unless I get lots of response back to start this coming weekend (and sign-ups). Either one is fine for me.

My game will include a doc and a cop (sane). I'm into basic roles, but I will be giving the game a very descriptive storyline and I'm hoping that everyone enjoys it.

Great game thanks for it and the compliments! Can't wait to play the next one Wave I'll be watching for sign ups...