Mafia IV - The Shore House - GAME OVER. TOWN WINS!

OK Adrian explain this for me you said

Adrian wrote:

6 people out of 14 hardly is a suspicious tie. I have a reason for voting for Stimp and I didn't even check the logs

and yet you saw fit to switch votes last minute for what reason... seems like a last minute attempt to not seem like you were protecting him... as you realized you weren't able to swing the vote...

not sure about rose now... voting for one of your own now seems like a risky move or maybe a very bold way of capitalizing on his mistake...

Hmmmmmmmmm...... VOTE: ADRIAN

ok no to suck up to camn or anything, but by locking the thread during nite phase its keeping with the true spirit of the game. townies are not allowed to converse during the nite phase. it says so in the rules, other mods have allowed this but it's their game and this one happens to be camn's,


with that being said,

i also suspect Adrian

you have been overly defensive and not really givin us anything to go on. all you have done is try to defend yourself and not offering any valid alternatives, except for glancing pokes at kist and dustin. you can do far better than that.

kist is a known liability but so far he has been pretty wuiet and harmless so i tend to let him slide.

yes dustin said he would be in late and his vote would be late.

you however, started off by voting for me because my tally of those who haven't voted was "annoying" while still trying to point the finger at somone active. normally you are the one carrying the banner to get lurkers lynched now you want to spare them?
then you switch your vote to stimp,

then when the vote was like 7 to 2 you switch it to tc wich by that point it diddn't matter tc was a gonner even if he did show up there would have been enough time for him to plead his case and then have enough people switch their votes, so why bother at that point??

and futher more you have been like 5 times more active this game than past games. and you have truly been no help.

i am also lookin at stimp

hangin out in the back ground watchin?? bs i mean you know we hit lurkers right off the bat every game so why would you put yourself out like that?? seems like a poor poor play on your part.
and seems awful scummish to me

WTG Townies! The lynch-all-lurkers strategy pays early dividends once again!

RIP Crystal - that's a painful loss, but with no cop I'm hoping there's other pro-town roles out there.

Crystal was the first one to cast a vote for Stimp, btw... but I can't see any other reason they would have picked her to die, at least not based on her posts in the thread. Maybe just dumb luck?

Adrian's voting behavior is definitely suspicious, but as far as his being overly defensive he always reacts that way when he gets voted for or even accused.

I'm pretty sure today is 2 days long, right? Our next deadline is Tuesday night? That being the case I'm going to wait and watch a little more. I know I'll catch a lot of crap for not voting Adrian right away, but I'm just not convinced, and there's plenty of time.

And Ann R Kist - why all the venom? Something I said?
Your post makes it sound like you're a Paranoid Gun Owner or something like that - and you invited the Doc to target you? I'm not sure what kind of shenanigans you're up to this game. Oh, and you should really try to avoid name-calling - it's lazy and shows a lack of imagination.

And Guido - Hippies can be murderers, too. Just look at ol' Charlie Manson!

To be fare Charlie Manson never actually killed anyone he got other people to do it for him in the true spirit of a lazy hippie.

More to the point I am also suspect of Irish rose as she voted for stimp before Adrian did however her now being the first to vote for Adrian today makes me think that either he or she may be innocent but I do think that at least 1 of them is likely mafia it makes sense that the mafia would try to save there cohort from an early lynching also in that vein I would like to suggest that Wave is very likely innocent or at the least not mafia as his was the first vote and the logic that ended in TC being lynched.

I am really confused by what you guys are saying about me and it makes me sad as well.

This HAS to be because we have nothing else to go on but you have nothing more on me than on anybody else but regardless, I am being pointed at.

Like I said, I wanted to accuse tubby to see what kind of reaction I generated, some people defended the lurker strategy so I figured that reluctantly I'd follow.

I HAVE NEVER LEAD THE BAND WAGON AGAINST LURKERS, and I am very confused as to why people are saying that I have. Therefore I am really starting to suspect people and before I go to work I will let it all hang out. If I have to die at night because I'm getting close to the truth, so be it. I HAVE said in the past that I don't mind dying at the hand of Mafia but that I truly hate to be killed by my brothers.

I will explain every single one of my actions even though I hate to be in the spotlight like this.

I was at work between 1pm and 9pm so I was checking to see the game just because I'm addicted to it, and so I voted for Stimp and had no time to switch my vote until I got home.

I voted for Stimp because in my opinion, between an experienced lurker and a newbie lurker, the experienced make me more suspicious. He even admits SPYING on our conversations. How weird is that?

WildIrishRose changed her vote only 10 minutes before I posted saying that I suspected Stimp more than TC.

TC was just a lucky shot from our part. Like in last game, it really sucked for Mafia that they had a lurker for a goon, and this time TC did that to them again.

Now they have a lucky break killing the tracker and that really blows!

Tubby says afterwards that he didn't care voting for either lurker and then I draw suspicion because I decide to do what EVERYBODY else did?

Lurkers are lurkers, and that's it. When I saw that we were going for a lurker, then I decided that the lurker that worried me the most was Stimp. He is the one that should be clearing his name and not me.

The lurker vote was only split at the early stage of the game and why shouldn't we have a little debate as to in which order to get rid of the lurkers???

Dustin: I wasn't accusing you and I'm sorry if it came off that way. I was really just trying to say that the fact that I switch to the popular vote at the end meant nothing. You voted for the popular vote and nobody suspected that. So why am I suspicious for doing the same thing??

The tubby vote was just a silly thing because I was getting bored of reading about sushi and I wanted to see some action. Then I switched for Stimp for reasons already explained and the I tried not to be stubborn and show that I'm with my Townie brethren. Please don't hold that against me.

Why would I defend TC?? I wasn't. Mafia or not, he was a lurker like the rest. At the time I placed my vote, Stimp was a lurker also, so what's the big deal??

And Dustin, I don't combative when I'm mafia, I get combative when I'm being accused because I hate dying by the hands of my brothers. And you said it yourself, I always end up being innocent.

Tubby: how can I offer any alternatives? Everybody agreeing to vote for lurkers doesn't really give us much to go on, does it? I don't know who are suspects, except for the people that seem to be insisting in weak arguments, like me switching votes.

I'm not gonna vote for anybody so I don't get accused of switching votes.

PLEASE people! I'm innocent!!!

but why bother to change your vote... so late when it would make no differnece to the outcome.. it just seems pointless and trying to divert attention from yourself... it makes no sense at al... if you turn out to be with us im truly sorry adrian each time someone makes a mistake they get lynched... its how the town survives..

Well here I am again late for breakfast... Maybe I should rethink this whole getting before bed thing just never seems to get me up in the mornings; although the dreams are wicked...

Well I guess I don't have to say shit this morning if I don't want to nobody seems to be pointing more fingers at me so cool. But being the person I am I guess I just can't keep my mouth shut to long.

First: Rose I felt it prudent to defend myself cuz I was late getting in that day remember I was up all night getting pissed. As for my swearing I'm sorry if my words offend your delicate ears and I will do my best to curb my swearing in the future but I suffer from turrets. As for my not having anything worth saying... How bout this... Is the Island void of trees... See EVERYBODY on this Island has felt it necessary to stay here and get killed... I believe I was the one trying to figure out how to get off this Fooking shit mark of land, and to continue with that phylosophy lets make some paddles and get these boats moving. Hippy Pothead I may be but I'm still Intelligent enough to know that you don't need electical power to make a boat move. Everyone wants to stay here and die cept me if there is someone on this Island killing people and it is obviuos they can kill us when we are locked in our rooms I want Off This Island ASAP.

Second: (Stately) Yes I am sure that there are actually more than just The Beloved Charlie Manson hippies who have commited murder in their days but I assure you that it is not in my genetic DNA to comit murder.

Now back to the show.... I will wait to cast my vote till Tuesday night just so I don't jump the gun.

I am wondering about Stimp's weird entrance into the game as a lurking lurker That was a very odd play

Not that it affects my vote in any way.

The only 2 poeple who tried to get us not to vote for TC . Adrian , Rose .

Stimp sitting back , not voting. He said he was watching voting patterns, was that to help the town.. or waiting to see if his scummy buddy could use 1 vote near the end to save his ass. I dunno.

And meow with votes going towards Adrian, Stimp speaks up, on Adrains behalf .... maybe he's afraid to lose another partner . .

(I wish I didn't like anybody here , it would make it so much easier to vote for, and accuse poeple )

Vote :Adrain

Adrian wrote:

It's EXACTLY like WildIrishRose says: I'm trying to stir the pot to see who slips up or who takes a stance to later on see if they contradict themselves.

Let's say that just out of pure luck I accuse a mafia scum and we see a weird reaction to my accusation. We may have something going on there...

I agree that lurkers will hurt us in the end, but it's also true that chances of lurkers being Mafia is very slim. We need to start a good hunting right off the bat because mafia has a much better chance of killing right than us...

DJ Sypher: with "dead set against lurkers" is an exaggeration, and I really don't recall AGREEING with that game plan. i may have followed it not to get everybody against me, but that's all.

But it's ok. If everybody wants to vote lurkers, I'll vote a lurker...

that's the only thing i'm getting from that is you didn't want to vote lurkers. i'm not saying you were dead set against it but you seemed very reluctant about it. which does look suspicious to me now that tc who was a lurker is also proven mafia.

Adrian wrote:

I was at work between 1pm and 9pm so I was checking to see the game just because I'm addicted to it, and so I voted for Stimp and had no time to switch my vote until I got home.

and this part confuses me you didn't have time to switch votes but you had time to post???????

if you are innocent i'm truly sorry for naming you and bring all this attention to you, but your posts are not sitting right with me. and i'm standing by my vote.

and i'm not letting stimp slide with his lurking and ghosting post he made. that post moved him up from the bottom of my list this is just the first post i've made.
but stimp that does look very bad on your part and i would also like an explanation as to why you did that.

and to guido your first post you were all excited and here for the who done it party. the very next sentence in that one since it was edited for a double post you wanted off the island. trying to find a way off the island is not helpful to us. there is no other way off the island. to be helpful you need to post who you think is mafia and why. that's why i said your not helping. and having turrets you don't type swear words you say them.

and actually i voted for stimp after adrian did. i personally preferred stimp. with him being experienced and having been in friday and didn't post anything he was purposely being a lurker. and i didn't like that at all. i wasn't sure if he was up to something or maybe something happened in rl and he couldn't play. now we know he's up to something we're just not sure what. and i changed my vote because everybody else decided stimp had a better chance of eventually playing than tc did. and yes i know i look scummy right now and i'm probably close to the top of most people's list. i'm trying my best to help the town. and if there is anything anybody wants me to explain i will. i'm not afraid to be challenged and i have nothing to hide i will explain anything.

Rose... this is my first run at this game and so far I have enjoyed most of what has transpired. I do not fully understand how people come about who to vote for I don't know any of the other players on a personal basis in and out of the game Cept one and he's my brother... "Out of the game" ...I am town as far as everyone here is concerned.

As for the Turrets seeing as how what I "type" is to reflect what I say then SHIT my turrets will need to be "typed". So I feel that I am justified in SON OF A B***H saying I have turrets and should be aloud KISS MY A$$ to type what ever it is I would "say" in Person on this forum... If I'm wrong then I apologise F**K OFF, but I will from now on type my turrets in a way to try and SUCK ON AN EGGROLL make it less offensive to your DAMN eyes.

Now seeing as you seem to disapprove of my Illnesses... F**K SHIT, Turrets... Pothead... I wish to change my previous statement of waiting till tommorow to vote and out of pure vendictiveness I Vote Rose

Note: Vote subject to change

That must've been the first time somebody suffering from Turrets made me laugh! Good one, Guido.

Listen everyvbody. I am at work now and afraid I may get caught. I just found out the firewall password a few days ago and we have no websites allowed except for the company ones so the dark Mafia background would be an eyesore around here so I'm typing this in notepad to try to be more discreet but still taking a chance since I am not the only one that uses this PC.

I am just trying to say that everything I have been accused for has been commited by somebody else with no suspicions, EXCEPT for me getting bored of always going after the lurkers first.

I wasn't protecting the lurkers, or can I say that all you are "protecting the active", then?

Please, believe me. I can't believe that all of you really think I'm scum! I am town through and through!

Adrian thank you SHITWAD for the applause of my illness. I hope in the F**K HEAD furture I may be able to applaude your SUCK SHIT A$$HOLE illnesses myself. Till then PISSOFF my friend.

what I still can't follow is that everybody agrees that my switching of votes was pretty pontless but nevertheless that puts me on everybody's suspect list.

So if I have my own thoughts and go after active people I'm scum. If I follow the herd and vote what everybody votes, I'm scum... hmmm... interesting.

I'm getting very fed up with Guido's mouth. It's wearing very thin.

Clean up your act by the next comment, Guido. This is not a suggestion or part of the game. I mean clean it up, understand?

Man I just love voting to kill people. and this two day waiting period is a total crock of shit. So therefore I am making my votes now. My vote for adrian stands today. but the next deadline vote I VOTE Guido Capone and the day after that I Vote Statelywayne and then the day after that I vote for statelywayne again Buy that time the game should be over with a townie win.

Guido Capone wrote:

Rose... this is my first run at this game and so far I have enjoyed most of what has transpired. I do not fully understand how people come about who to vote for I don't know any of the other players on a personal basis in and out of the game Cept one and he's my brother... "Out of the game" ...I am town as far as everyone here is concerned.

I wish to change my previous statement of waiting till tommorow to vote and out of pure vendictiveness I Vote Rose

"your town as far as everyone here is concerned" does that mean that you know that your actually not??? and again voting just out of vendictiveness not helpful us. but i'm taking it that your voting me cause you can't bring yourself to vote another one of your scummy brothers possibly leaving you by yourself. but to vote the right way you need to put down the pipe/bong whatever it is and actually read the posts looking for people to contradict themselves and say something that seems scummy. then you make a post about who u think is scum backing it up with evidence from what you have gotten out of their posts. and most of us only know maybe one other person outside of the game so that's not a defense of any kind.

And why is it that the only posts after mine for awhile we're guido, adrian, guido, adrian with the last 2 only being 5 minutes apart????? slipping up cause your both on the chopping block????

OH, COME ON, ROSE!!!

You're really starting to get on my nerves!!! I'm at work trying to defend myself because I don't want my fellow Townies to lynch me!! I'm TOWN!!!

Even at the risk of getting written up at work!!!

Why is anybody else logged on or posting is NOT of my business and had nothing to do with me.

I AM NOT ASSOCIATED WITH A-N-Y-B-O-D-Y. I'M TOWN.

if your innocent y not just wait til u get home to write me since deadline isn't til tomorrow?? y r u sweating it so bad if ur town?? and there's still 7 people left to vote and plenty of time for other people to change their votes.

Oh, right, yeah!! I'm supposed to see like 10 people (I didn't actually go count) voting for me, nobody votes for anybody else... OK, 1 vote for somebody else, and I should just wait for the deadline to start defending myself.

I know this game better than that. If my suspicions stick past tonight, I'm toast. And I know I'm innocent and I don't want to die!

@ adrian


i believe what she is trying to tell you is this,

1) you HAVE 5 VOTES agianst you.
one person voted some one else, that leaves 7 votes outstanding, and as of this post like 26 hours (give or take) for people to either change their vote or for those who have not voted to vote another way.

2) if you were innocent you would have laughed and pointed the finger at somone you truly thought was guilty instaed of risking the un employment line to defend yourself, you still have time i am not truly convinced as of yet of you guiltyness but you are not helping yourself by this play.

if i were you i would come up with a good case agianst someone else,


i hope this helps you i am not voting untill i get home from work tomorrow around 5 pm board time


so where the hell is everybody else????

fiend i know you got a spread sheet goin what does it tell you?

sw you got anything???

e-pod you got anything ?

dustin i know you know something

i mena it seems like everyone is content to sit back and play this one on auto pilot. or is it simply to early or do you all agree with rose and don't wanna implicate yourself,, and let her take the heat

* hint if you throw a barking dog a bone they shut up*

i am tending to agree with her at this point but i am holding my vote incase something better comes along.

Ladies and Gentlemen it has been brought to my attention that my choosen personality has put a couple of you on edge... so to lessen that edge and being as I am not aloud to play the persona I chose and I chose it cuz I knew there would be people busting each others balls and I wanted to give everyone someone else to think about I was wrong and for this mod if cam is ok with it I change my vote.

Unvote Rose

Vote Guido

guido unless camn told you that you had to do otherwise which i'm assuming he didn't since you asked if it was ok why don't you just change the way your playing and play normally instead of voting for yourself??

I know I'm not dead yet, but most of the votes are focused on me. That doesn't make me feel comfortable playing, knowing I'm the most likely to get hanged as of now.

The only thing that catches my attention is Rose's obsession with answering every one of my defenses with a lame attempt of making me seem like I'm slipping up. I already stated my case and I will answer every single accusation.

Tubby, the fact that I don't have a real suspect doesn't mean I'm guilty. The first time I played this game, I successfully got everybody to vote somebody else and since that person was innocent I was lynched the next day only to be found innocent. So not only I felt guilty of killing my brother but it only bought me 24 hours of agony.

I can't have innocent blood on my hands and I can't really tell who is Mafia at this point.

Rose you are correct in assuming I do not have camn permission but I joined this Forum to play an RPG game now I realize that everybody is playing their charecter but if you play like you know what everybody is going to do because of past games wheres the true who dunit kind of fun.... If you start pointing fingers right away based on that persons past games how can you be sure you won't kill "one of your own" even by accident...

Adrian explained the pain and disorder he felt in himself for doing so, And in all honesty I just can't justify that as fun.

To my brother I will not shame our family anymore.


With that said Guido goes to his room and hangs himself


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