Mafia IV - The Shore House - GAME OVER. TOWN WINS!

Very weak Guido, you should continue playing. Who the hell said you can't do whatever you want to do, be it in character or not. I just do whatever the hell I feel like and no ones complained. (I take that back, everyone's complained) But you do have a point about past games reflecting on the current games, I seem to have a harder time getting people to go along with me for some reason or other. I think it has something to do with something I did in another game. but that is just people getting to know each others quirks like we shall get to do with you if you continue playing. Or You can just kill yourself and you'll be forgotten in two days. Peace

Agreed. ^^

I not sure who is mob, but I don't think Adrian is.

As we still have a few hours I will vote later as I'm am off today and I'm not answering my phone.

if anybody has somebody else in mind i'd love to hear it. but other than agreeing with me and mentioning a name here and there (mostly mine lol) there really hasn't been anything said with evidence of y people think it. a couple have said that they think adrian is innocent but they'll vote later and see what happens today. give us somebody else to look at. i agree with tubby it's like everybody is on auto pilot. where r u guys lol?

I've got a few quotes from different people I want to address...I will post my thoughts after each one, in bold.

Tubby

i am also lookin at stimp

hangin out in the back ground watchin?? bs i mean you know we hit lurkers right off the bat every game so why would you put yourself out like that?? seems like a poor poor play on your part.
and seems awful scummish to me

Wave..
I am wondering about Stimp's weird entrance into the game as a lurking lurker Shocked That was a very odd play

I know that there is a kill the lurker obsession at the beginning of games, I was hoping to split the vote more than I did as I was hoping the scum wouldn't all vote the one way. I was around, if it looked at any time I was going to be killed I would have spoken up.

Adrian

I voted for Stimp because in my opinion, between an experienced lurker and a newbie lurker, the experienced make me more suspicious. He even admits SPYING on our conversations. How weird is that?

You know I would have been around Adrian, at least at some point in the game, so voting for me was stupid IMO rather than an unknown player, not knowing if they would show up. Spyng is only weird IF you have something to hide.

epod

Stimp sitting back , not voting. He said he was watching voting patterns, was that to help the town..

Got to try new things Epod, new tactics, strategy's etc to see where it leads us. Ofcourse it was to help the town, If I was mafia, we all know I would have been in there posting away.

rose

and actually i voted for stimp after adrian did. i personally preferred stimp. with him being experienced and having been in friday and didn't post anything he was purposely being a lurker.

Yes, I was here friday and didnt post. When I was here the thread was locked, there was only Camn's opening post.

So that's my thoughts on day 2....... All that being said.....

VOTE ADRIAN

@ stimp
fair enough thank you for your imput,

@guido,
look you can still play the game the advantage here is the previous three games are still up on the site an available for your review, (your brother should have told you that or at least showed you those games) We are a small but tight lil group that plays here, much like any gaming circle you get into. lets say for instance you played ad&d and you play with the same 8 to 10 all the time after awhile will notice some people are always barbarians or thieves or mages or fighters simply because that is the race and style that bests fits their own personality. same is true in this game som prefer to sit back and let thing ride, other are more vocal, and yet still some others like to stir the pot as it were untill nobody can see wich way is up, i believe why everyone took issue with you wasn't nessacarily your language it was the way in wich you use it, merely saying shit fuck gawd damn is not offense but but when you say , hey you fuck, or fuck you cocksucker thats the annoying or offensive part.
by hanging your self you are doin the town no good either cause we lose another townie and we lose another se of eyes and another miond to hunt these bastards,,

@Guido, there's no reason to off yourself. I see that you've
implemented a tourettes filter on your comp. Really, that's all that
was needed. I doubt that if you were a scumbag that you would come out
that way with that kind of language attracting attention to yourself
(but who knows). Since I don't think you're actually guilty please
continue playing since we need as many innocent players as we can get.

I'm still wondering about Stimp and his 'new' tactic. Staying in the shadows seems awfully scummy to me whatever the given reasons.

ok first allow me to address Wave.
From the begining based on my inability to show up right away and vote you picked me first day I do have a life and I may not be able to get on line. I have made it a point since starting this game to actualy kick people off the comp to allow me to play but so far all I've seen is blame this person because of this or that in the past games not because you believe they are truely guilty in this game playing like that just doesnt seem fun... You meaning the general term. You how ever don't like the Turrets thing. I curbed it Before your Post of Getting tired of Guidos Mouth clean it up before next comment I mean it... So piss on it if i can't play the charecter I chose today then I just don't want to play... Actual Post...I'm getting very fed up with Guido's mouth. It's wearing very thin.

Clean up your act by the next comment, Guido. This is not a suggestion or part of the game. I mean clean it up, understand?

Ok now Ann R. Kist
No problems with you personaly or other, just wanted to answer you statement on who told me to quit Wave did and considering he is a Mod He can Kick me out of the complete site and so I figured it only prudent to quit myself.

Ok Tubby...
I have played AD&D since I was 14 I'm 34 now and yes I have ran into people that play the same class, or race but they each have a different persona... Some people like my brother fred Not brother in this mod can't play different personas but he can play without forgone knowledge When you play a new game and base your persona or charecters on what was done in the previous games that is playing with forgone knowledge and that takes away the suspence of the game.

Note to everybody I'm not saying i'm done with the site just this game I will not change my charecter but I will kill him off. EASIER THAT WAY.

it seems one of your biggest problems is that you think we are basing our votes entirely on the way people are acting and thats true to an extent of course the way people go about things can add to your suspicion of them but the main reason most of us are voting for adrian is that he was the person who seemed the most opposed to voting for TC and since TC is now identified as mafia that makes everyone who defended him suspect.

That is the way this game is played at the very beginning there is very little information to go on so we do have to rely rather heavily on intuition and even just analyzing a persons posts and behavior the idea being that after a few lynches you may be able to recognize voting patterns of people who seem to be working together, if someone is actually revealed as mafia as was the case with TC then anyone who seems like they may have been helping him becomes a suspect who the mafia kills at night and why can provide clues as to there identity and of course special roles can add information to the game if and when they choose to reveal themselves.

Your complaint seems to be it's not the "who dun it" type of game you pictured and in reality at the beginning it's not again we have little information so it's mainly about intuition analyzing behavior and luck the logic can really only start after there is a voting history to go on. I think you have given up on this game rather prematurely and have not really given it a chance.

As to the language issue feel free to swear as Adrain said he found your initial turrets posts hilarious I found it rather amusing myself the only issue with language is as tubby pointed out we do not like it being used as a direct insult against other players sometimes people may get offended by that kind of language which can lead to a flame war type situation and things can get out of hand and it interferes with the fun of the game which is our primary concern.

I would suggest you give the game a little more time to open up as it progresses each round relys more on information and less on guesses and intuition and I have a feeling you would enjoy the later rounds more, you may continue with whatever character you choose all we ask is that you refrain from such harshly worded insults towards other players, I do not think thats unreasonable.

I have not called anyone names. When I was replying to Adrian I typed my Turrets in caps to allow him to know that it was the turrets and not the individual charecter speaking.

My problem with the game play isn't current game issues. It is that everybody on the first day was making coments on well since "Stimp" isn't posting he must be a lurker and so he's got to go... Blah blah blah... And then it continues with well "Adrian" in the Past has done this or that so that makes him suspect right away.

Past games should not have bearing on current games if they are totally new games unless you are playing from an old game and just adding your own twist, what a person acted like in a past game should not be incorperated in the new game... To my understanding we were invited to an island party not knowing anybody else at the party if thats the case then nobody knows how Adrian or Stimp act or who they were before this island party. If that is not the case then I totally misunderstood the perpose to this forum. New games new rules new people.

ok we have a lynching tonight. so y instead of actually focusing on the game is everybody worried about guido? he hung himself, then posted again that he didn't want to play. let him throw his tantrum. either he's just acting like a child and hurting the game or he's mafia scum and trying to divert attention. either way we don't need him let him hang himself.

@ guido,
if you wanna move this disscussion to ask a pro thread you could gain some better insight over there


however rose is right tonite is deadline

Just about everyone swears now and again in these games. I don't find it amusing, tasteful, or correct when profanity is used for no purpose in every single post and to the point that almost a third of the words in the posts are swear words. I know that I'm not the only one who feels that way.

I haven't deleted anyone. Issuing a warning is simply that. Hardly a good reason to lose sleep over or bitch about or hang yourself, but I'm inclined to agree with Rose at this point. If you want to continue to play the game feel free. If you're not interested then yes, feel free to hang yourself.

Are you upset because I voted for you, Guido? Cause, like, you do mention it.

Guido , I would like you to please stay and play. I know it takes some time to get used to the way the game is played , and how the other players, act and play.

There are poeple to can be a pain in the ass all the time , or sometimes , or never. You take the good, with the bad and run with it

Again Guido please stay, I'd like to get to know you is there anything I can do that would convince you to stay honey . I'll be sad if you go Guido, you dont' want to make me tear-up do ya ..

votecount

Adrian - 7 (Rose, Kist, Dustin, Wave, Sypher, Epod, Stimp)
Guido - 1 (Guido) or dead?? waiting for camn to decide


left to vote
tubby, fiend, adrian, gto, wayne

So i guess all the time that was going to be used for vote changing is running out, huh, Rose?

You seem to be pretty cheeky lately? You even believe all my posts are addressed to you...

"if your innocent y not just wait til u get home to write me since deadline isn't til tomorrow??" you said.

"WRITE **ME**"??

Do you think we are the only players here?

Dustin: I was not defending TC, in any case I was attacking Stimp which at the time seemed like more suspicious to me and he was even lurking on purpose.

Tubby asks me for alternatives and offer none.

Guys, I'm townie and I'm getting fed up of defending myself.

Kill me if you wish, you will see your mistake and then come all crying about it, with silly "RIP Adrian"... I will not be able to RIP if I am killed by my brothers.

If we have nothing better to do, lets at least kill another lurker...

Oh wait, I guess there are none left.

Listen, guys. I gotta go out to the meat world with my lady. Please don't kill me. I have already stated my case and it has been to no avail. Just because I wanted to skip the bullshit about following a recipe about voting lurkers right off the bat. What actually matters is what you vote in the end, not really what you vote at first, specially with two days ahead for a first deadline.

I don't understand why is everybody against me and I am really sick of always being innocent, yet always being a suspect...

It's like this game is more paranoid than ever. If you read something reasonable, you can't even agree with it because you will get accused of being in cahoots with whoever posted the original idea.

I know not everybody thinks I'm scum. There are people that are just following the popular vote.

Tubby, you asked me to defend myself and I did.

SW, you said it best. I always react like this when I'm the popular vote.

Rose, your obsession with me is really making me wonder about you.

Dustin, I already explained why I went against the lurkers theory. I truly believe it also plays into Mafia's hand. If we just kill lurkers without any real discussion, then it's just fun for people with a special role. I was getting VERY BORED of playing this game every time I was townie, because the discussion is never there. And once it starts it's for the cop to come out.

I just wanted to have fun from Day 1 and it has been the worse mistake in any game of Mafia I've played because this is by far the game I am hurting the most.

I really can't go on typing and I'm glad I finally have a life in the meat world because it's like Guido says about past games ruling the present one... Oh, no!! I just agreed with Guido!! Sorry Mafia partner, I guess the charade is over and they're on to us!!

Over and out.

Edit because I never got to actually vote.

vote stimp

You have not convinced me to change my vote but you sure are making me feel guilty about it, listen not taking into account any perceived changes in your demeanor I am voting for you because TC is now proven mafia and regardless of whether you were defending him or attacking stimp either way the ones who seemed the most opposed to voting for TC have become my main suspects surely you can see the logic in this.

So basically it has nothing to do with past games influencing this one my vote is based entirely upon the information which we have available you and rose both voted for the one person who there was any hope to lynch other then TC and so you and rose have become my chief suspects it would make sense if at least one of you were mafia again this is based entirely on the logic of the situation on not on perceived changes in demeanor.

I also find it puzzling how you say you were against the vote a lurker theory but then voted for stimp, because he was a lurker that comes across as very odd to me.

As I said I am feeling very guilty so if that was your intent mission accomplished but in one of our last games at tunes Epod had me feeling even more guilty and almost got me to change my vote and not lynch her and it turned out that she was mafia so I have made a point not to allow unsubstantiated personal feelings affect my judgment either way I will vote for the person who there is the best most logical case against.

So what about it whom do you suggest we lynch? I have laid out the logic for why I voted for you which should be pretty clear but I am willing to listen to your alternative who do you think we should lynch and why?

the only reason i wrote "me" is u were only responding to a post i made when u said u were risking getting written up. it's a game i would never risk getting written up at work for it expecially if i was innocent. and if u haven't noticed i haven't even mentioned u at all since yesterday except to do the vote count. so if u think that was all about u then yes i guess i'm obsessed. but we'll find out soon i guess if my theory is right. and if u truly are innocent then u can rest in peace knowing that since i was the one pushing u so hard that i will be the one lynched tomorrow.

LET me step in for a min 1ST OF ALL NOONE can kick any1 off this site expect for me. and i have no issue with u Guido... so please continue playing... and if u have aissue get at me ok... thats all.......

Dustin wrote:

in one of our last games at tunes Epod had me feeling even more guilty and almost got me to change my vote and not lynch her and it turned out that she was mafia so I have made a point not to allow unsubstantiated personal feelings affect my judgment

I've been wanting to switch from Adrain But ., I was thinking of that instance too Dustin. I was guilty as hell , but I tired till the last second to get anyone to change thier votes lol , pulling all the stops

If I was going to switch it would be to Rose.. for the same reason I'm voting for adrian.....

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I have to go out for dinner in about an hour and I know I'm not gonna be here for lynching ..... so anyone thinks we should switch , lets hear it ...

He does make it tough to lynch him, lol, and I'm pretty sure that he would fight for his life tooth and nail either way. I'll keep my vote for now anyway.

vote: Adrian

i actually asked you to do some real scum hunting rather just doin some glancing blows,

i askd you to defend yourself in a better manner not beg for your life,

so yah sorry better luck next time

I vote Rose

and only because she is pushing so hard to take out Adrian, Who as I expressed earlier I do not think is guilty. If I'm wrong and he is, I know I will be the next one out of the game but so be it. I have learned that sometimes I gotta trust my instincts.