mafia 15 f11 like woh game over!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wildirishrose wrote:

I'm still trying to get caught up i'm on page three. but there is one thing that dustin and nobody from my scanning down has brought up. another possible reason for there to be no mafia kill is that the mafia is experienced players. every kill they do gives us more clues to go on. it's happened on here before that if there is no lynch the mafia passes on their kill for the night. so with dusin not mentioning that it could be an experienced player move which would include him it's not sitting right at all.

vote dustin

This is so village. I am mason with you Rose. I am inclined to follow your judgement.

seriously lamont? a triplepost after i told you to stop the double posting

I have to Vote for lamont

now you made it a quadruple post while I was posting...

Sorry. If I am allowed to edit my posts then I will no longer double post.

this is an f11 set up there are no mason what r u talking about lamont

and yes here u are allowed to edit your posts. double posting is frowned upon.

about double posting


it may be viewed by alot of people here as an annoyance but i allow it . but by the same token you are allowed to edit your posts.

wildirishrose wrote:

another possible reason for there to be no mafia kill is that the mafia is experienced players. every kill they do gives us more clues to go on. it's happened on here before that if there is no lynch the mafia passes on their kill for the night. so with dusin not mentioning that it could be an experienced player move which would include him it's not sitting right at all.

Dustin wrote:

I'm beginning to expect rose more and more, she's conveniently leaving out that I was the one who suggested that it was likely someone who was absent that is mafia a theory which does include myself. IO did not say I thought it might be a ploy by experienced players because I do not believe that's the case it would be stupid to pass up on the opportunity for a free kill.

I did not conveniently leave it out my post had nothing to do with that point. I do not agree with the it was someone absent and didn’t send in the night kill. I think it is far more likely that it is two experienced players. Each kill gives us clues as to who the scum are. And the fact that you are trying to twist what I said into casting more suspicion on me has convinced me that you are scum.

As for your partner I’m not sure yet. Epod trying to say you were on before deadline so it couldn’t be you made me a little suspicious cause you weren’t. But that could have been the site screwing up I’ve had problems with posts times being an hour off before. So that’s not enough to make me want to vote her just watch her a little more closely.

vote dustin

edited to add i forgot to appoligize. when i finished reading through i seen i was not the only one who thought about the experienced player theory.

Sorry I'm also at work so I am rushed so sometimes I don't even check if I'm double posting, but I'll watch from now on.

By "mason" I mean I am so convinced you are a villager I am willing to hold you above suspicion defending you, voting with you etc.

By the perponderance of the evidence I am going to have to go with dustin although I still suspect Killa & Wave.

One interesting point of note though. Wave and dustin look so alike its hard to believe that they arer BOTH mafi because it would be so obvious!

Vote: Dustin edited for color

losing our Doc isn't fun Crystal & Howard Lil to tired to think tonight , school in the AM.

LOL this is hilarious. The Mafi's must both think the village is dumb as rocks!

Of course I'm speaking in reference to the night kill.

Rather than just wait for them to come on out and accuse me of killing Howard because he voted me, I'm going to head them off at the pass and tell them how it REALLY is.

Dewds, the village isn't stupid they know the following people murdered our doc:

1) Killa
2) Dustin
3) Wave

If you expect us to believe that NONE of the Mafi voted for her with TWO votes on Dustin at night time, then man do you have another thing coming!

So don't bother trying the "razzle dazzle let's lynch lamont" routine. Save it for those that are dumb enough to believe it.

u go boy!

Btw, I'll just throw this out there for public consumption:

What if Guido & Wave are BOTH Mafi? See, this would mean Guido passed his DAYTIME vote to his Mafi brother! And just to further advance this idea, Wave literally jumped ALL OVER ME for voting Guido in day 1.

You know, I would LOVE to see a Dustin/Wave BW today...

Nicolet, I noticed you voted Wave yesterday -- care to do it again today?

Dustin wrote:

IO did not say I thought it might be a ploy by experienced players because I do not believe that's the case it would be stupid to pass up on the opportunity for a free kill.

i went back through to find the game incase you asked me to be more specific when the mafia passed on a night kill cause there was a tie/no lynch during the day. it was game 8 and imagine my surprise when i found out that you dustin were the sole remaining mafia that passed on the night kill. and because of it you won the game. why are you now trying to say it's stupid to do that?

ok after losing the semi finals and not even getting to shoot tonight, I came home and slept.... FINALY.

RIP crystal & howard

I have been out of it for a min... but now I'm back and this is what I have been thinking....

Lamont you r new and I do not think you are scum even though you picked me day one, you did change your vote and even said you used me to fish with I can respect that, so your off the hook.

Rose I'm not sure... I want to see a little more action from you before I deside, the whole rock to the head thing had to suck but not a viable excuse from this point on.

Wave after giving you my vote and you not useing it to crusify the wicked, and getting our Doc killed well you all can see where I'm going with this.

Kist my friend I'm glad your back but you are beeing so vayg... dont know how to spell the word....

Dustin I have to agree that you are looking kindda suspiciouse, try toneing down the defense a little and let the game run its' course.

Nicolet is so town and half confused that she gets a free pass, but I have been blinded by BEAUTIFUL woman before so your not completely safe.

Epod I love a girl whos into being green but you are being quiet and that makes me nervuse.

I'm tired and going back to bed I will be here in time for deadline I will cast my stones then.

till then heres a fat ass joint to get us through.............

OH AND HAPPY BELATED 420 TO ALL MY SMOKEING FRIENDS

Nice to see you back Guido and before I forget, my condolences.

Nice to see some strong village support overall, we're gonna need it with our doc dead d1...

@:Killa -- How come you didn't vote for Dustin last night when you totally convicted him in your vote post? And you voted for Crystal instead??

wildirishrose wrote:

i went back through to find the game incase you asked me to be more specific when the mafia passed on a night kill cause there was a tie/no lynch during the day. it was game 8 and imagine my surprise when i found out that you dustin were the sole remaining mafia that passed on the night kill. and because of it you won the game. why are you now trying to say it's stupid to do that?

The circumstances in that game were unique to spell it out it was three townies vs 1 remaining mafia, me. The situation being that one more wrong lynch by the town meant victory for me whether I killed that night or not so it was smart to leave 1 additional suspect to decrease the chance that it was me who got lynched. However not taking the opportunity to kill a innocent at the very beginning of the game has no such strategic purpose what is the possible benefit of that action? Your claims that it must have been an experienced player an not the result of the mafia being absent is clearly an attempt to cast suspicion off yourself as one of the absent individuals.

Truthfully I am beginning to suspect that the mafia are you and Lamont and you devised a "hide in plain sight" strategy you both have been gunning for me since day 1 both seem to be working very hard to get me lynched for reasons that frankly do not hold water Lamont first voted for me just because I asked if we could get confirmation if there was no night kill because of the doctor saving someone. He has offered no better reason then this despite his insistence of my guilt. It seems to me the mafia strategy at this point is to convince townies to kill off experienced players early instead of the normal route of killing lurkers. go back and read the posts how they both start alluding to me being guilty early, evidently in hopes of others starting the bandwagon before the decide to both come after me full tilt.

further this is incredibly suspicions to me

Lamont_Cranston wrote:

LOL this is hilarious. The Mafi's must both think the village is dumb as rocks!

Of course I'm speaking in reference to the night kill.

Rather than just wait for them to come on out and accuse me of killing Howard because he voted me, I'm going to head them off at the pass and tell them how it REALLY is.

I highly doubt the mafia would be so stupid as to try such an obvios tactic. Why would you not wait for someone to come out and accuse you of killing howard because he voted for you if you truly believed this was there plan? It could potentially have been a big clue instead you jump on the opportunity to proclaim it's far to obvious so it can't have been you, I think that it's more likely that was your plan all along.

Currently I have two theories 1 it's Lamont, rose or the both of them in conjunction or 2 that the mafia is doing there usual tactic of hanging back and allowing the town to rip one another apart. people who fit this theory imo would be

1. killa
2. nicolet
3. guido
4. kist

I would be willing to vote for one of them as if Lamont and crystal are town, killing a townie who is very actively trying to route out scum is a bigger loss then a townie who is mainly staying to the sides and I am unsure as to which theory is true.

for now however I will vote: Lamont for reasons detailed above. I will likely get back in time to alter my vote if necessary but I will not be able to defend myself against Lamont's and rose spurious attacks throughout the day so I ask that you all analyze them yourself and ask if they really make any sense, because up till now they've just been grasping at straws.

Dustin wrote:

I'm beginning to expect rose more and more, she's conveniently leaving out that I was the one who suggested that it was likely someone who was absent that is mafia a theory which does include myself.
Vote: Crystal

Epod wrote:

Dustin missed the vote but he was around for the night phase , he posted at 9:45pm

You can't have it both ways; were you there or not? And why would you try to make it look like you were not there when you were? (Probably stopped in for night time tea with your Mafi friend right?)

And I'm sorry but why would an experienced player even mention the doc being a reasonable possibility for stopping the night kill?? First of all we would of had to rand a doc in the first place and then on N1 with all players in place they would of had to actually match. Mentioning the doc serves to just confuse the issue here.

Not to mention the fact that you actually killed our Doc... In fact, it was you and wave that came in at the last minute and hammered her down while you had two votes on you... Just a coincidence??

Dustin wrote:

sorry people I got so used to the first day being really long that the game completely slipped my mind till it was to late to vote.

Level headed Dustin that I should follow for leadership...

Something just smells here...

Confirm Vote Dustin

@Guido Capone yes i am confused, as i said this is my very first game ever ever, lol have never played anything like this in my life. i am enjoying myself so far seems like a great group of people to play with.

@Lamont, last night i voted for Wave on pure gut feeling.

@Wave, sorry but i had to go with my gut for my vote last night, and dont worry your kindness from b-4 has not been forgotten.

so am at work now wanted to keep with the game will have to check in later with more thoughts and vote.

Wow nicolet, you are doing so good I thought for sure you've played other games.

@ Dustin I see your point with the end game and the free kill now. Running down the numbers it would have been smarter to take the free kill. Cause if a mafia makes it to end game it would have left them 1 in 4 (since we are usually get one of them around lynch 3) if they took the free kill and more of a chance to hide. Now it would be 1 in 3. The only benefit would be what I first mentioned that it's two experienced players trying to cast suspicion onto the noobs and absent. Which still a possibility but seeming a lot less likely now. I'm going to reread but I do believe you to be innocent now that I played it out to end game using both senarios.

unvote

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@ guido, kist, and killa all 3 of you have said that you think dustin is mafia this game but none of you would vote for him. even when he had 2 votes yesterday and 2 today until i unvoted. why? killa you stuck with crystal who was a lurker like you've been saying since the beginning but i would still like to hear from you. kist and guido you both know that when i sink my teeth into somebody i don't let up until they are dead. were you trying to keep me going on that path without being involved in his lynching so when he did get killed and came back town you had a case against me?

and since me not being on is still an issue with some thinking that makes me responsible for the mafia kill let me clear that up. i was on for about 5-10 minutes trying to read about 8:15 p.m. but since it was so short nobody probably seen me. that's when i told tubby to do a mod note that i couldn't post. which is how i have always turned in my night actions when i was bus driver/mafia before and he's modding. i'm not sending a pm when he is 15 feet from me.

Well, well. What an active game.

Yes, it was quite obvious that Dustin was saving hisself by adding another vote to someone who had one vote for them already. I wasn't so sure about Dustin being guilty, nor am I so sure about him being innocent either. But he wasn't one of the few people who didn't post at all at the beginning and Crystal was. So it was to end up with a tie by my not voting at all. That's no good. We already went one day without a lynch and we'll never get the scumbags without lynching players. So I chose to go with Crystal. I only used one vote and did not use the proxy. Would we have prefered if I had used both on Crystal? Would it have made any difference?

I could have used both and gotten someone else noosed. I could have left it at a tie with no lynch. I could have gone with Dustin. I had to do something other than leave it at a tie obviously. So I picked the one already in the running that wasn't here at the beginning. That would be Crystal, Rose, and Anrkissed if memory serves me correctly as the players who had made not post at all in the beginning of the game.

If anyone thinks that Guido and I are mafia teammates they better give their head a shake because he certainly wouldn't be proxying his vote to a fellow scumbag. That would be incredibly stupid.

Lamont_Cranston!! You're the one who asked a question about a newbie mafia being okay to win and then you jump all over (I will use your term) the player who answered that question and vote for him. Your comment about a mafia member being around on the first night but not making a kill request for fear of being discovered is really starting to work itself into my mind. And again it's focussing on you. Maybe you were fearful of being discovered and held back.

And again I will mention that first comment of yours about would it be okay if a newbie mafia were to win. Oh, man. I shouldn't have left that to the side and I won't anymore. Okay, I'm ready for the "Wave and Dustin" comments because, you know, I'm going to vote the way Dustin just did for the second day in a row. Go ahead and make them comments, I don't care. I'm voting the way I'm voting for my own reasons.

Vote Lamont_Cranston

Oh, yeah, the double and triple posting is very annoying

vote count
3 Lamont~{Kist, Wave,Dustin}
1 Dustin~{Lamont}

Ok I started suspecting Lamont yesterday. But when he did the mason thing with me I knew for sure he was mafia. I was content to let him think that he was going to have me in his back pocket at end game until there was enough to know who his scum buddy was. I believe it to be Kist so I'm speaking up now and voting him.

vote Lamont

My reasons for believing it's kist are Lamont has voted for dustin, guido, and crystal. He has FoS'd nicolet, killa, and wave. he named kist as town. never mentioned howard who is now dead or epod who i'm guessing is suppose to be the kill tonight. and told me he would follow my lead. that is everybody in the game now.

Kist said nothing about Lamont on his list claiming he was a noob and was unsure. and voted Lamont for a bs reason today in an attempt to distance himself from him but be able to change his vote later when a real case is brought against somebody else.

Ok I'm sleeping right now.

I disagree with you unvoting Dustin, Rose. The game you cited is a red herring issue.

Just keep in mind all of you that are voting on me that I will flip village.

I want the village to win and will gladly submit to a lynching that will help that occur.

However I don't see that as one of those situations (like a PR cc etc.).

All that will happen now is I will flip village and the mafi will gain another two free kills. I just don't seee how the village will be closer to winning because of this.

Truly though it is beyond my control.

Time for some more sleep



Further thought while falling back asleep:

The fact that we are not lynching from the list of the 3 that voted for Crystal is truly a crime.

@ROSE: in my defense on the Dustin issue, I did not vote him cuz I did not vote, I had noway of voteing.

@WAVE: although I prooxied my vote to you I did not "ASSUME" you were innocent, or guilty I did it cuz I knew YOU would not abuse the proxy, wheather you are or are not scum, I still trust you to be honest.

@LAMONT: I still believe your innocence, my reason is cuz I did the same thing 1 - 2 games ago.... FISHING... and even said that was what my intentions where so I can't think you guilty just for doing the samething I did, but thats just me.

@EPOD: you may not be lurking but you are silent enough to make me think you have something to hide, you are not makeing many veiws or points to help us townies win, this is anti~town and bad for us all.

so for that I vote Epod

become helpful or parish.

Thanks Guido , I've been busy and I'm jsut sitting down to read everything ,,, and thinking about what I want to do about it meow. Voting for me just because I've been quiet/busy sucks ../.. and I can't even write anything meow , cause the BF is behinde me harssing me to friggin death!!!!! so ...

I have some more R/L to tend to , for now I'll VOte Lamont Wave and Rose are making sense , Hop you guys are right ,,, I'll try and make it back before the dealine