Mafia 16 - Raby Castle-TOWN WINS!!!

Good Day Players!
here my thought so far:
ok so Kist has only posted twice, and both times were for Wave. reasons in why have no clue for Kist has given me nothing to go on. so i am thinking that they might have something to hide since there is a major lack of posting. so for now:
Vote: Kist

I have to agree I think kissed votes are more about an old grudge thing between the two of them then any concrete reason hell kist hasn't even said anything that makes me believe he's following the game he could just be popping in every day and cast a vote for wave without even reading the thread just to get on waves nerves, I wouldn't put that past him. IMO this makes him little better then a lurker so I two would be inclined to vote for him. but the last minute vote resulting in a tie is just far two coincidental I highly doubt that someone would make a tieing vote saving godling at exactly 9:00 by mere chance I think as I said before it's far more likely a last ditch attempt to save a fellow member of the mafia. Hopefully I will be around near the deadline today but if not I need to get my vote in now so for the reasons stated I

Vote: Nicolet

ok i see your point dustin but the likelyhood of the noobs doing something blatantly scummy doesn't fit right with me,,

my question is for wave why diddn't he at least unvote godling when godling was nolonger a lurker??

vote wave

good afternoon all

first of all i dont see how a last mintue vote means that im scum..... lamont was acting pretty scummy so i assumed since he acted the same way last time an was town that he wouldnt do that a second time apparently i was wrong...... and i would have voted much earlier except i was not at my house at the time and only had time to breifly look over the posts

so much for quick assumptions

Lamont


*luckie*

Well, tubby216, at least you have a stated reason for voting for me. But there was really no point in unvoting godling by the time I saw his post. I was over at TorrentBully setting up my Beatles page and didn't see his post until later at which point there usually isn't much chance of changing the lynch.

What would have resulted if I had unvoted? Nothing, really, I imagine. Except that Lamont would have been lynched instead of whacked. Don't think the nasties were around last night and that would have meant no mafia kill since I think that they placed the kill way ahead of time, so that would still have left us with Lamont dead by lynch instead of by the scummies.

Neither would one usually expect two newbies to fly in out of nowhere at the last moment and draw us a tie. Maybe you should concentrate more on that little ditty.

naw i am chalkin the "swooping noobs" to shit house luck cause thats how godling rolls,,

and at the time if you had unvoted godling would have gotten lynched,, if the "swooping noobs" hadn't occured

Kist is being awfully quiet and doing nothing to help the town in finding the scum even if Wave is scum I feel that it will be blind luck on Kists part that Wave gets knocked out.

I am not totaly convinced that Nicolet is scum for posting at deadline, But I think she could have picked someone that would have been a definate hanging rather than picking someone to create a tie, however I don,t think she was the tieing vote I think it was Luckie.
If Nicolet would have gotten her vote out one minute earlier then Luckie would have been the tieing vote. Then again Luckie did not know how Nicolet was going to vote and Nicolet didn't know who Luckie was going to vote for so in truth neither were the tieing vote and I blame neither.

However Dustin you seem really stuck on what is obviously an accident, and playing with you as scum I have learned that MISDIRECTION is your best trait.

VOTE DUSTIN

I will be heading to work at 6:00PM I will check what happened when I get home after 3:00AM

Alright I'm back home now. Thank you for everyone's best wishes. Rip Lamont your death was to early and really confusing. Now trying to make heads or tails of this game. Here are my thoughts on people so far.
Luckie and Nicolet - They are both new and I would say they look really scumy if it weren't for the fact that I'm town. No mafia no matter how new would swoop in and tie a vote instead of letting a townie get lynched. The only thing I can attribute it to is new townies who where trying to cast votes before the deadline without tracking what the vote tallies where at before they did that.
Howard - I already said I thought he was guilty before. This might be just an OMGUS reaction but why would anyone care if someone always waits till the last minute to post and then doesn't post anything of value just that they are here.
Dustin - you've swayed my opinion so many times with your logic because it just makes sense. This time though you are going with some embarrassingly shaky logic. Your accusations are very close to that of Howards and I know your better at forming theories than this. And I'm not one to usually side with guido but it really does look like your trying to form a smoke screen and I think your scum this time.
Crystal - Has been on a lot of lists as possible scum (including my own) but hasn't said anything to go on directly. My connections for her being scum are based on other people's reactions to her lurking.
Wave - you peeked my suspicions when you didn't change your vote but when i put myself in your position and after reading your explanation it makes sense. I don't think your scum.
Kist - is being kist. not that this means innocent or guilty but I have no read on him.
Epod - seems to be pretty quiet and I don't have much on her either.
Guido - I normally don't agree with but this time, like I said earlier, I do. I think your innocent.

Well as a result of what I think so far I'm going to
VOTE Dustin

Current vote count

Luckie -1- (Howard)
Wave -2- (Kist, Tubby)
Kist -1- (Nicolet)
Nicolet -1- (Dustin)
Dustin -2- (Guido, Godling)

Still to vote
Luckie
Epod
Wave
Crystal

i realize that given the curcumtance that nicolet and myself made last minute votes for the same person (which contrary to what is being said was pure chance) but i believe that she is on the right track...... krist has been very quiet... but has at least made votes... at the same time has voted for wave both times with no explanition but it is expected seeing since they have a ongoing rivalry... but makes no sense and is hurting the town i dont think this is the time to just randomly vote based on who likes or doesnt like who.


i vote kist


luckie

ok i will not aloow a tie i know kist will not change his vote, so you have one hour to show me why i should not vote you dustin or wave why i should not keep my vote on you

ok wait hold the friggin phone


nicolet luckie to you two share a commomn brain or something? cause your blantant budying/following one another is pretty damn scummy

so unvote
vote: nicolet

you should not vote me because I still firmly believe godling, nicolet and luckie are probably our mafia two last minute votes to create a tie and save godlings life a coincidence? come on that is insanely unlikely it's more likely godling wasn't around and so the other two members of the mafia did what they did to save him how else do you explain that?

Guido "what is obviously an accident" are you kidding me? did you ever consider they are both mafia so instead of blaming neither you should blame them both? that tieing things up at the last second was part of a plan? that makes far more logical sense then two people voting right on the deadline to tie things up being just some incredibly unlikely coincedence and what really gets to me is that we have three incredibly suspicios people and none are even up for lynching we should at least kill one and see if the best theorie we have at tis point pans out.

anyway the only person I'm sure is not mafia is me so letting myself get killed would be bad for the town so in the interest of self preservation and wanting to avoid a tie

Vote: Anrkissed

I've had enough of Anrkissed as well.

Vote Ann R. Kist

@Wave: Why did you post being uncertain of voting for Ann R. Kist, delete it, then vote in a new post?

I hate being in this position. The scum wont vote for me because they have based their entire misdirection on me being scum and they wont kill me at night because then it proves that i'm town and again it ruins their misdirection. instead they are going to go after the two new players and use the excuse "well if one isn't then the other one must be". I hate being in the position of wanting to be killed because it seems to be the only way to prove what i'm saying and bringing the scum down. I still say Howard and Dustin are scum. Both of your theories are based on ME being scum. If thats the way it is then vote for ME already I would love to prove you both scum.

@godling: Does it always have to revolve around you? Maybe I have other motives for placing my vote where I am.

Your the one who said they voted to save their "scum buddy". I didn't make it about me you two did

Because, Howard, I don't want it to be obvious that I really wanted to vote for him from the start after he voted for me for no reason. I hadn't even posted up to that point and he's been an asshole by just voting for me with no explanation or even any other text.

@godling: See, I don't need to vote for you to try to learn your alignment. You reaction is enough.


ADD:
@Wave: So it all boils down to you (at first) wanting to make your vote not seem OMGUS, but then just letting it be that?

ok just to try and clarify this a little when i voted for Lamont and ended up tieing the game and saved Godling, it really was by pure coincidence, i didnt really have time to even check what the vote count was, i promise i am def not scum. i am innocent.

So, Howard, everyone that talks about their point tonight means "it's all about them time" per you. Back up!!

I don't even care at this point if Anrkissed is innocent or not. Good enough for you. Oh, I hope it's not all about you, though. LOL.

Nope, that time it was all about a reaction from godling. You however seem to be taking it to heart a little too much. I understand why you are voting for Ann R. Kist. I just needed to dangle a little shiny object in front of you as well. Sometimes I like pretending I am a puppet master.

It took a long time and a lot of debating but you all decided that it must be Kist to pay for Lamont's death. He had to be a part of it. So you go looking for him. He knew you were coming so he already made his way to the back yard. And was waiting for you beside the gallows. After seeing the dungeon you now understand why there is a gallows in the middle of the back yard. He walks up and puts the noose around his own neck. When asked if he had any last words he said the only two he apparently knows "Vote Wave". So Wave having enough of it asks to do the honor. He walks up and pulls the lever to release the floor. After it is all over you pull Kist down and search him. There is no tattoo or anything on him. He was just an innocent townie.

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Kist is lynched. He was an innocent townie.