MAFIA THE GAME

well i gonna be busy all day tomorrow so i won't be able to watch the boards like a zealot tomorrow so i am gonna vote now


vote: camn

reason as follows,

shaky and shady theories about why people vote the way they do. and was quick all too quick if you ask me to point fingers i mean the bodies of the innocent weren't even cold yet. Pluss callin me out and this is the second time and the second person to do so erks me something feirce,

reason i jumped in a voted,
I had been posting all day and voted then unvoted so for not to vote sounded suspicious to me so i figured i had better vote rather than say nothing.


if i am being too defensive then excuse me I have never played with any of you and i find that to be a huge disadvantage to me cause i don't know you, you don't know me


but yes i have a short list and for now camn is at the top of it.

no lets settle down and get these scum so we can go back to a normal life

I'm not positive on camn , ... I just have a feeling , I hope no one is baseing thier vote on my opinoin , although I do think camn is dirty wiether he is town or not .

Yo yo yo. Like I said. Camn is too fast pointing fingers at people. Also, he has been innocent every game so far. So probability fans know he is over due for a special role. Also, there is nothing wrong with the no lynch theory, it doesnt benifit the mafia anymore than town. Like I said before, I would not have bothered advocating the no lynch method if I was mafia because I would have known that jugga was innocent and jumped on the bandwagon. I have been mafia 2 times before and know how it goes. Either way I dont believe my posts are evidence of my guilt and as I said before, I know im innocent so you are accusing an innocent without valid reason IMHO and that is suspect. Cheez, I hate repeating myself.

Vote: camn

LIKE you said..Camn is too fast pointing fingers at people.

Allright as much as I would love to kill Wave be he innocent or not, How come no one has accused Stimp of being mafia? To me he seems to be accussing everyone and trying to confuse the issue. I really think he is mafia will anyone go along with me?

I vote Stimp

My town brothers..
take names as to who is voting me. their Arguments are totally suspect. There is no logic there at all.

Epod!!
Quote me being Defensive, please!!

I don't think you can.
Your reasons for voting me are fabricated.
And I know you a little.. I think you will actually feel bad for killing a townie....

Also.. Fiend

thefiend wrote:

he has been innocent every game so far. So probability fans know he is over due for a special role
Vote: camn

Such a lie. Do you forget me being Scum LAST GAME???
Such a lie!!




PS.. It really is no wonder that Mafia always wins with you guys.. you need better logic!

'you voted me' is not a logical reason. Period.

'what he said' is also not a logical reason.

'I just have a feeling'... are you kidding me??

Yes,

Thefiend,s comment about camn being innocent every game after just the last game him being Mafia totally solidifies my vote (unless a tie creeps up our butts).

Feel free to vote for me anytime, Anrkissed My objective is for the town to win. Wether or not I die in accomplishing this end is not so high on my list of priorities. Never has been since the very first game I played. Your priority, as usual, is to cause confusion. I look for treachery or deception in others posts. Your posts I discard like a candy wrapper.

Isn't it great when you build yourself a reputation? Well, maybe not in your case

hmmm camm does make a good point...

thefiend is making a random guess- especially if cam was scum last game...

can anyone remember if camm was scum last game...

untill i get a good reason to change me vote im sticking with my vote, if he's inncocent and if he dies im sorry..


vote- thefiend

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With Out mind, the shell rises

"Experienced players" (as in from Tunes) know that there are easier targets than others. That's why Dustin was the first murdered...

Could THAT be the reason Epod is so hard on Camn, because he is one of the easiest targets?

On the same line, Drak attacking me seems to be the same strategy... but Epod has been a bit over the top in her accusations.

VOTE EPOD

Wow lots has gone on since my last visit to the town hall. I am suspicious of Camn, but have to agree at this point thefiend is almost definatley playing at misdirection. So....





I vote The fiend

Camn I feel over analysis stuff, he's also very good at talking himself out of trouble. For those who were there, remember the game where his head was on the block almost every day, also last game, he almost bamboozled everyone and won the game single handed.

If he is town, then I would really hate to lose him but I feel strongly he is on the dirty side of the game again this time round.

@anrkissed.. Where the hell am I accusing everyone ? I've posted my list of 5 suspects. I voted one time yesterday. I've voted one time today. Good luck in getting people to follow your lead.

@camn

ha ha. So I smoke a little herb and forgot camn was mafia last game? So what? Everything else I said still stands and I still vote for camn. (although being mafia 2 times in a row isnt very likely, DOH!)

Also, you say we accuse you without logic, well, Id hate to repeat myself so read the rest of my last post there is logic there. So what if I forgot you were scum last game. You also LIED in your last post and revealed that you are mafia.

Quote :

PS.. It really is no wonder that Mafia always wins with you guys.. you need better logic!

First of all the mafia hasnt always won. Second of all, why are you calling us "you guys" ? Arent you one of us townies? Third of all, my logic is fine, I have been on the winning side every game so far

Current Vote Tally:

Camn = 5 (Epod~Lady, Stimp, Drakelems, tubby216, thefiend)
Thefiend = 4 (talhun69, Wave, DJ Sypher, gtosdad)
Stimp = 1 (Anrkissed)
Epod~Lady = 1 (Adrian)


I've set up the "Ghostly Bar & Grill" for the ghosts posts. It is not limited to ghosts as far as posting. But they should have there own thread. Some members don't like too many ghosts posting in the main game thread, so now they've got their own place.

when a person dies do they know all or do they have to wait and see who is who??

@tubby216

You know just as much dead as you did alive. The advantage to ghost posts is that you know if they were guilty or innocent.

So, they don't know any better than you or I. So you cannot take what they say as truth written in stone. But you do now know if they are innocent and can believe that they are doing their best to help the town out with their opinions. (ie; they are not trying to misdirect the town)

ahh ok thanks wave,,

i probably should have asked that in like a game play thread huh lol sorry if i clogged the game

dedline tonight will run till 11 pm... i got called in to work and will be home shortly after 11, sorry about this. So if some1 would like to make a bit easier for me have the offically tally posted rounf that time. thanks

Fiend.. It's "you guys" as opposed to the other place I play this game!

Oh Mafia.. how you take up too much of my time!

Anyway...
You old schoolers SHOULD remember.. I DO get my head in the noose almost EVERY GAME.. and I am usually innocent.

Its true, I did play a brilliant game as Scum last time.. so good that theFiend himself forgot that I fooled him.
That game.. He was SO onto me, and I SO killed him that's probably why he wants me dead today.
IIFC.. Draklems and Epod were my scumbuddies.. and I remember them being UNTHRILLED that I turned on them I even voted to HanG Drak! that could be where THEIR votes come from.

But that said, You guys will be killing an innocent townie if you kill me.

I am willing to wear the Noose.. because I feel my PROVEN innocence (i know, stimp!) will show you who the scum really are.

For the record, I did forget camn was the final mafia member revealed at the end of the last game. But I hold no grudges for games past because it doesnt help the townies. I am innocent, when I started this game I looked at my inbox it says no new messages. I have had a special role 3 or 4 out of 5 games. I know anytime I use probabilities I get a finger pointed at me, but I stick by math as my best tool for mafia and the likelyhood of me being mafia again is slim. cris and wave both stated lynching an innocent in the first round is a 50/50 chance and I pointed out it wasnt. I still think no lynch works best for the first round or so and dont think it is any reason to accuse me of being mafia.

Wave and cris were quick to vote for me. Keep that in mind if I get hanged tonight. Also, the no lurker strategy went easily out the window when the mafia targeted me.

Anrkissed, a vote for stimp will not be of any use this round, please reconsider.

I realized what the "you guys" comment was referring to being as camn plays more than one game. He's even asked for advice here on his other game. Please note that I am not taking his side, just pointing out that one reference to his comment.

Knowing by experience how some of the others play the game is very helpful, but carrying over the feelings from a past game is foolish (sigh, with one exception) if indeed anyone is actually doing that and won't help the town win the game.

Re: Math. Yes, it is not a 50/50 chance. I guess I just kind of threw that into comment without much thought. But you have to target someone, because the Mafia is going to hit someone every single night. You have absolutely no chance of lynching scum if you don't lynch anyone and they get still get a kill. If you followed this methodology throughout the game noone would get lynched and the Mafia would win. That's my math for what it's worth.

Lurkers confuse the game and confusion is what helps the Mafia out, so they are the obvious first target.

camn wrote:

Fiend.. It's "you guys" as opposed to the other place I play this game!

Anyway...
You old schoolers SHOULD remember.. I DO get my head in the noose almost EVERY GAME.. and I am usually innocent.

Nice excuse camn, blaming another place for your slip ups.

"Usually innocent" confirms it with me that you are as dark as 2 in the morning.

2 mistakes in the one post from you is very telling. I hope my fellow townies see this as clearly as I do.

Hi, sorry to be away so long - long day at work yesterday followed by lots of drinking, and then lots of sleeping.


A quick note on probabilities:

thefiend is correct, the chances that a random pick would be mafia were not 50-50, it was 4 in 17 (About one in four, or 3 to 1 against). The odds that a random pick today would score us a mafia kill are 4/15, so slightly better.

As far as the odds of a person having a special role, there are 6 special roles we were told about (4 mafia, 1 cop, 1 doc), so the odds are 6/17 (now 6/15, since both of last night's casualties were poor townies). Whatever special roles people may or may not have held in past games has NO bearing on these odds. I don't care if you've flipped "heads" on a coin 20 times in a row, the next time you flip that coin, the odds are still 50-50.

So any talk about "X is hardly ever mafia and is statistically due" or "X has had a lot of special roles and so is probably just a townie" are just silliness. Randomness doesn't work like that, it doesn't pay attention to history.


I guess that wasn't such a quick note...

Doh, I gotta run, cant stop posting!

Actually it does matter, If I asked what the probability of flipping heads is you would say 50/50. What if I asked you what the probability of flipping heads 3 times in a row is? Randomness does not see history, but probability is deciding what is probable.

edit: to say nevermind. It doesnt matter that much because anything can happen, but I still use it among other things at least a little when I am adding up all my reasons.

Alright,

To the chagrin of all the Mafia members, no doubt, Dustin has explained why we off inactive players. It's not because we are mean. They are actually harmful to the game if you are an innocent townie. Another confusing issue that the Mafia love to use to their advantage.

Please read his post in the Ghostly Bar & Grill thread

Dearest Fiend you ask me to switch my vote away from Stimp, But you give me no alternative. I say Stimp is Mafia and if all of you switch your vote to be voting with me, we can actually maybe kill a guilty person. Besides it goes against all my principles to do anything that somebody asks or tells me to do. So my vote is for and will stay with Stimp today, Hopefully the rest of you people will listen to reason and join me. Besides I will have no part in lynching camn, who I believe to be innocent.